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Re: notes from the DIEM25 launch

Nettime - 13 February, 2016 - 19:20
so here i are my 2cents.. after a while. take it a duty free molotov cocktail without the lighter. yes, i listened to the stream, there were a few public and private screenings, for a lower entry cost. and indeed my expectations must have been too high, even if this volksbuehne event format successfully shows a perceived need for mass media compatible "follow me" events, it will later show how well it will have worked measured by its results. "more livestreams from the EU, full access to the TTIP files.." all in all the vocabulary was disappointingly similar to the one of the ruling political class, NGOs and well meaning humanitarian organisations who developed their own representational language games of detachement combined with motivational phraseology. there were still too many evangelists and celebrities rather than "experts" - as if these "influencers" would trigger a larger audience to not only join the movement, but to start risking to think critically - or "out of the box". in this way it resembled

Re: notes from the DIEM25 launch

Nettime - 13 February, 2016 - 18:11
Hi Felix, I agree with your analysis completely. The European problem is democracy not money. But where is the democratic push going to come from? I am a europhile, I have lived in Paris for almost two decades. In recent years I have begun to see that I may have backed the wrong horse. In 1900 Europe accounted , 25% of the world's population, Europeans controlled 80% of the land surface, for several centuries they lived off unearned income extracted from the rest of the world. In 2100, 6% of the world's population will live in Europe. The old predominate in every sense, the young have higher education and no future. The people recruited from Africa, the Middle East and Eastern Europe to do the work that pays for the residents' pensions are harrassed and vilified. Most Europeans still hanker for their own imperial dominance and despise non-Europeans. Europe has no credible means of self-defence. A corporate logic of governance generates as its only counterweight right-wing populism. The political trend is i

Re: notes from the DIEM25 launch

Nettime - 13 February, 2016 - 17:36
despite I would share amost all of the general goals of DiEM25, there are some remarkable procedural inconsistencies: - intransparency: how can you criticize the compositon of EU-closed meetings and apply the very same practice with a totally intransparent selection process for the core discussion group? - closed meetings: where are the vidoes of the internal discussions held during the day? how can we demand the EU to open their meetings if we don't do it ourselves? - paywall: how can you charge 12€ entry fee, excluding the poor, the refugees ..., and demand more equality at the same time? Stefan Am 13.02.2016 um 11:29 schrieb Felix Stalder: <...> # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime< at >kein.org # < at >nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender

Re: notes from the DIEM25 launch

Nettime - 13 February, 2016 - 17:23
On 13/02/16 11:29, Felix Stalder wrote: can you elaborate (which resources, measured how)? m

Re: notes from the DIEM25 launch

Nettime - 13 February, 2016 - 16:29
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 I was also there at the Volksbühne (though not like Geert during the day). I completely agree with DiEM25's general analysis that the current crisis in Europe is a crisis of democracy and not one of money. Europe still is one of the richest, best resourced regions on the globe. Consequently, this crisis must be countered with more, not less democracy, and that this more of democracy has to find expressions additional to occasional votes. These, in many ways, are uncontroversial, procedural points. The only element that distinguishes this from demands for more democracy coming from the right (inspired, I'm afraid, by far right victories in Swiss initiatives and referenda), is DiEM25's insistence that this needs to happened on a European, rather than a national level and that the retreat into the nation state is one of the drivers of the crisis. On 2016-02-12 16:12, Nina Temp wrote: Perhaps it's because I'm male, but I found the top-down element not so pro

Re: notes from the DIEM25 launch

Nettime - 13 February, 2016 - 14:15
Dear Nina, Dear Geert, thanks for your reports and views on diem25 - an event that is ostensibly about setting up demoradical constituent power in europe - lead by varoufakis, the only credible opposant of ordoliberal austerity. i agree it wants to try to be the Great Recession version of the the Great Depression Popular Front - although not only we are living under informationalism and not industrialism, but the geopolitics is very different - political marxism is becoming residual in all forms (reformist, revolutionary, hybrid) and european fascism is not yet a unified threat - in a way it's like europe were a big weimar republic based on the eroding power of the black-red-gold alliance (Zentrum/CDU, SPD, FDP) threatened on the right by lega-like parties and pegida-style movements whose fortunes are being boosted by salafist threats to the European citizenry. Also, let's not forget that the 1930s, even in England and France, were not open to immigration and political refugees. But there is no fundamenta

Re: notes from the DIEM25 launch

Nettime - 13 February, 2016 - 13:43
El 12/02/16 a las 21:33, Geert Lovink escribió: <...> I like to remark that there was a repeated mistake during all the sessions: Podemos was seen like a reference, like The reference for Spain. In fact in Spain, since the Indignados's, we are doing an amazing r-evolution despite of Podemos, surely not thanks to Podemos. The rebel cities of Barcelona and Coruña where yes represented in the DiEM "show", but Podemos was omni-presented in the discussions which will bring all this newly "founded movement" (¿?) to the starting point of killing the energy and action that are really making the deference (in Spain or elsewhere) carried out but the civil society organized (in Spain PAH, Partido X, Barcelona en Comú, 15MpaRato, Agua es vida, Mareas, Marea Blanca...) , to replace them by a poor and banal (yes, Podemos is mainly banal and inefficient, exept some very residual good people there)/macho centric/dogmatic/tech-incompetent/selfpreserving/narcisistic top-down leftish movement :), very poor in realist

notes from the DIEM25 launch

Nettime - 13 February, 2016 - 02:33
Dear nettimers, last weekend I was in Berlin where I combined Transmediale festival (attending workshops on the Snowden archive and MoneyLab related issues) with the launch of the Democracy in Europe Movement (DIEM25), initiated by the ex-Greek finance minister & Sydney-sider Yanis Varoufakis. The day was divided in three parts: a press conference (an old school format with weird criteria who was entitled to attend, and as I am 100% not press, I left), a closed meeting divided in three parts (general diagnosis, economics and strategy) and a theatre show in the large auditorium of the Volksb??hne (see links below for the entire stream and selected presentations). DIEM25 should be seen as contemporary version of 1930s ???popular front???, a meta-party that presents itself a broad coalition, a historical block Gramsci-style, consisting of old and new leftist parties, the Greens, Podemos, Die Linke, independent candidates and scattered members of social-democratic parties and progressive liberals. The key wor

Re: notes from the DIEM25 launch

Nettime - 12 February, 2016 - 21:12
Hello all, I was also there and cannot share Geert's enthusiasm a tiny bit, as do many others that were there. Why? - Let's start with the fact that it was indeed some "contemporary version of 1930s popular front": That doesn't only apply to the very general sense of it, but even to borrowing rhetorics from national socialism, given that a repeatedly mentioned ominous "they" was attributed to the nameless rich & powerful in the trailer (very similar to the financial elites said to be all Jewish in the 1930s) which - while not depicted with rats - was indeed illustrated by spiders (yes, actual spiders). - I was shocked to hear that the contents of the speeches didn't refine enough their intentions so that even a woman in the audience defining herself as fan of Ken Jebsen and the "New Peace Movement" (both representing a new spectrum of the political right in Germany) was still able to feel very included and happily applaud to everything presented. - In context of this, the "start cooking, recipe to fo

Victory for the unconnected; zero rating blocked in India.

Nettime - 12 February, 2016 - 19:15
Digital Empowerment Foundation Victory for the unconnected; zero rating blocked in India. Internet Rights Are Human Rights This newsletter has been specially created to celebrate the Telecom Regulatory Authority of India's support of an open and unbiased internet in India by passing regulations that prohibit differential pricing for data services in the country. This newsletter contains a press release, a retrospective of the battle against zero rating and links to various resources and press releases from India and abroad. Press Release - TRAI stands up for the voices of the unconnected; blocks zero rating in India. On Feb. 08, the Telecom Regulatory Authority of India (TRAI) released its "Prohibition of Discriminatory Tariffs for Data Services Regulations" -- effectively banning differential pricing arrangements (such as zero rating) for internet access. The Digital Empowerment

Life on Autopilot?

Nettime - 12 February, 2016 - 03:18
Orit Halpern's book, Beautiful Data, suggests that we live not so much in worlds of pure simulation a la Jean Baudrillard (or Philip K. Dick), but instead, in a fascinated relation with flows of signals whose referential nature does not stop them from forming a "new landscape" for the viewer/user. In other words, the data is ostensibly about the world, but it upstages that world, becoming the primary object with which we interact (and thereby impoverishing the rest of experience). Something similar is suggested by Karin Knorr Cetina with her notion of "postsocial relations" carried on with the always-unfolding temporal objects that typically appear on screens, notably in the realm of finance. The stream of flow-objects constitutes a world, one you can dive into, wrestle with, and from which - in the case of financial traders - you dream of emerging victorious. Both these theories have a lot to say about the consumer-oriented GPS navigation systems discussed in the New York Times piece below. I

Re: It’s Been 20 Years Sinc

Nettime - 10 February, 2016 - 08:17
Well, it started as elite platform (one needed computer, modem, access, time, IQ), unregulated, then it was commercialized, commoditized, masses came in, and finally it got heavily regulated. Compare with European conquest of North America. Looks like 'space'. On 2/9/16, 11:05, Florian Cramer wrote:

Re: It’s Been 20 Years Since This Man De

Nettime - 10 February, 2016 - 01:05
What is needed, above all, is a thorough critique and abandonment of the colonialist trope of "cyberspace". Florian On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 2:48 PM, nettime's nostalic historian <nettime-+k4XTOpCvZzMFIMGWPqnnw< at >public.gmane.org> wrote: Andy Greenberg, 02.08.16. http://www.wired.com/2016/02/its-been-20-years-since-this-man-declared-cyberspace-independence/ It's Been 20 Years Since This Man Declared Cyberspace Independence When digital dystopians and critics of Internet libertarians need a rhetorical dart board, they often pull out a document written by John Perry Barlow, co-founder of the nonprofit Electronic Frontier Foundation, a former cattle rancher and Grateful Dead lyricist. On this day in 1996, Barlow sat down in front of a clunky Apple laptop and typed out one very controversial email, now known as the "Declaration of Independence of Cyberspace," a manifesto with a simple message: Governments don't -- and can't -- govern the Internet.

It’s Been 20 Years Since This Man Declared Cybers

Nettime - 9 February, 2016 - 19:48
Andy Greenberg, 02.08.16. http://www.wired.com/2016/02/its-been-20-years-since-this-man-declared-cyberspace-independence/ It’s Been 20 Years Since This Man Declared Cyberspace Independence When digital dystopians and critics of Internet libertarians need a rhetorical dart board, they often pull out a document written by John Perry Barlow, co-founder of the nonprofit Electronic Frontier Foundation, a former cattle rancher and Grateful Dead lyricist. On this day in 1996, Barlow sat down in front of a clunky Apple laptop and typed out one very controversial email, now known as the “Declaration of Independence of Cyberspace,” a manifesto with a simple message: Governments don’t—and can’t—govern the Internet. “Governments of the Industrial World, you weary giants of flesh and steel, I come from Cyberspace, the new home of Mind,” read the document’s first words. “On behalf of the future, I ask you of the past to leave us alone. You are not welcome among us. You have no sovereignty where
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